Legendary playback singer Manna Dey turned 90 years on 1st May 2009. He promised on his birthday for a live concert. It was organized on 10th May. Due to Internet checking, the show was late so ended also late. Here is the event report. For all the international readers of this blog, I have translated few songs lyrics in English.
First one gentleman came for some formalities. He is the same one who used to participated in Shabd Kavi Samlen. He started with "Aavaj Jaise...Unki AAvaj hi unki pahechan hai..." Short biography of Manna Dey. Kolkutta to Mumbai and now Bangalore. Later on he informed us yes, out of 2 daughters one is settled at abroad so he is with his second daughter at Bangalore. 24th December 2008, the university also awarded him doctor of literature. He is 90 years old young man. We heard about 60 years old man, but this is first time.
Something about this alumni association. It started with just 20 members in 1974 and now about 200 members and they conduct such regular events, like picnic, social service, musical show etc. Some formality about thanking the sponsers. Archna Udupaal, winner of Mega Final at Sa Re Ga Ma TV show. She started in Kannada and sang songs. Starting with
1. Allah Tero Naam
अल्लाह तेरो नाम,
इश्वर तेरो नाम
सबको सन्मति दे भगवान
2. Song from "Madhumati: Aaja re Pardesi
आजा रे परदेशी
मैं तो कब से खड़ी इस पार
की अंखिया थक गई पंथ निहार
आजा रे परदेशी
3. Anari "Voh Chaand Khila"
वोह चाँद खिला
वोह तारे हसे
यह रात अजब मतवाली है
समज ने वाले समज गए है
ना समजे वो अनारी है
Then Mr. K.C. Khurana came. He is traditional anchor for Manna Dey show. He is Manna Dey's friend for last 50 years. He was witty and lively. He talked many things in Urdu and one nice joke. He asked Prof Chopara in a university about chemistry (pronounce chemistry) department. So Mr. Chopara laughed and corrected that not chemistry it
is kemistry. Mr. Khurana replied, "Sorry Mr. Kopara" :)
Finally Manna Dey arrives. We all offered him standing respect. "Good Evning Ladies and Genetlemen" A fully confident voice, addressed us. At the age of 90 also, he was really a young man. Like Jagjit sing and all other singers, he instructed to adjust bass and treble. Then he thanked us for listening to Archna. He declared that first half, he will sing the song as per his choice. He wanted to check how is his throat today!
1. This song written by Madhukar Rajasthani. He wrote songs for Lata, Aasha, Mukesh, Talat etc. many singer. Unfortunately he is no more with us now.
Saavan ki rimzim me thirak thirak naache mayur pankhi
खुले गगन पे झुक गए किसीकी सुरमई पलक
किसीकी लट बिखर गई गिरे घटा जहा तलक
धूलि हवामे धूल गई किसीकी साँस की महक
किसीका प्यार आज बूंद बूंद सा गया छलक......
सावन की रिमझिम में थिरक थिरक नाचे रे पायुर पंखी रे सपने
I think, I heard this song for first time. Yes, the lyrics are good. It
is about peackok dancing in rain season. He asked for tea, that had already arrived. So keyboard player offered him from chair next to him.
2. Meri Bibi Mumtaj Thi.
By the way, later on, his wife came on stage and her name was Sulochana, not Mumtaj :)
सुनसान जमाना का किनारा
प्यार का अन्तिम सहारा
चाँदनी का कफ़न ओढे सो रहा किस्मत का मारा
किस से पुछू मैं भला अब देखा कही मुमताज को
मेरी बीबी मुमताज थी
A husband lost his wife Mumtaj at night time at the bank of Jamuna River.
3. This song is written by Roshan, the grandfather of Ritvik Roshan. It was a fast song
and we all enjoyed with clapping
Ful Gedava Na Maaro
फूल गेदवा ना मारो
4. Lyricist by Sakil, Music by Naushad and it has some influence of Uttar Pradesh (UP) folk music.
Chundariya Kati Jaaye Re
चुन्दरिया कटती जाए रे
उमरिया घटती जाए रे
काम कठिन है, जीवन थोड़ा पगला मन घबराए
The mindis scared now, about difficult task (of self realization) in limited time. The time is going on and so age is reducing. The song with spiritual meaning.
5. Manna Dey acknowledge that yes, in those days, musicians named Shankar JaiKishan gave him the needed break to make some place for him, in the presence of great singers like Mahama Rafi, Mukesh etc. He instructed the Tabala player and informed us that yes, Indian classical music is like that, we have to make sure, all the muscial instruments are in tune. And the lyrics of the songs are also the same
Sura Na Saje, Kya Gavu Main? from movie 'Basant Bahar'
सूर ना सजे क्या गावू मैं?
सूर के बिना जीवन सूना
सूर ना सजे क्या गावू मैं?
A nice melodious song
6. one more song written by Madhukar Rajasthani. Raag Thumari.
Nathali Se Toota Moti...
सजनी नथली से टूटा मोटी रे
कजरारी अंखिया रह गई रोती रे
A description of a crying girl. Her ornaments for nose, is broken and a pearl is missing from it.
7. All time hit song
O Meri Johara Jafi
ओ मेरी जोहरा जफी तुजे मालूम नही
तू अभी तक है हसी और मैं जवान
तुजा पे कुर्बान मेरी जान मेरी जान
This song is between an old couple, who reconfirmed that we both are still young and good looking.
8. Dil Ka Haal Sune Dilvala
दिल का हाल सुने दिलवाला
9. Next he called Archana to sing duet songs along with him. He took the tea cup from the chair. Archana bow down for blessings. He asked her choice then suggested to sing this song.
Yeh Raat Bhigi Bhigi
यह रात भीगी भीगी गुमसुम है चाँदनी
सोने भी नही देता मौसम का यह इशारा
A description of full moon night. A nice melodious song.
10 One more such slow song. Manna Dey politely asked for forgiveness for any mistake as they both have not rehearsal it together. He instructed Archana to start with Aalap
Tum Gagan Ke Chandrma Ho
तुम गगन के चंद्रमा हो
मैं धरा की धूल हूँ
You are like moon of the sky and I am just dust of the earth.
11 A song composed by Chitragupat, and written by PremDhavan
Jodi Hamari Jame Naa Kaise Jaani
जोड़ी हमारी जमे ना कैसे जानी ?
हम तो है अंग्रेजी
तुम लड़की हिन्दुस्तानी
A good fast song, reflecting the feelings of era, when people started traveling to abroad. It explore the possibility of marriage between foriegn returned man with a typical Indian woman.
Now we had 5 to 10 Miniutes break. We had tea, cold drinks and some snack available outside. After the break, the lucky winners were announced from two sponsors. A Kannada movie actor VishnuVardhan came and honored Manna Dey. University facilitate Manna Dey. After all the formality music resumes. Manna Dey took some rest and Archana took over the stage again
12. Ajib Dasta Hai
अजीब दास्ता है येह
कहाँ शुरू कहाँ ख़त्म येह
मंझिले है कौन सी
ना वोह समाज सके ना हम .....
किसी का प्यार लेके तुम नया जहाँ बसाओ गे
Mr. K. C. Khurana cracked a good joke. Once, a dying wife asked her husband about his plan after her death. He replied, "I will become mad." So she felt releaf that thank God, he has no plan to marry again. He told, "Well, a mad man can do anything"
किसी का प्यार लेके तुम नया जहाँ बसाओ गे
This song was about a stange story where no one knows its niether beginning nor end.
Manna Dey came back. He is born Bengali. So off course he wanted to sing few Bengali songs. He has diary that contains about 2500 Bengali songs, with all flavors like Thumari, Dhrupad, Khayal. His wife is from Kerala. So he sang one Malayam song (from "Chemmeen") and two Bengali songs.
16. coming back to Hindi song.
Zindgi...Kaisi Hai Paheli Haye...
झिंदगी कैसी है पहेली हाये
कभी तो हसाए कभी येह रुलाये
A philosophical song, that describe life as a puzzle that make us laugh sometimes and sometime cry.
17. Dr. Harivanshray Bachchan, father of Amitabh and garand father of Abhishek. He wrote a nice epic Madhushala. Madhusala means liquer bar. Manna Dey informed us it is a gems in poetry and if he sang the full Madhushala then it will take one hour. So he recited few selected lines.
18. If Jagjit Sing concert can not end without "Yeh Daulat Bhi Le Lo...", Pankaj Udhas "Chiththi Aai Hai..." and Manhar Udhas "Shaant Zarukhe..." Same way, how Manna Dey concert is complete without his signature song. Yes. He started "Haaye Rama..." Then confessed "Wrong, wrong wrong.." And then that evergreen AALAAP from evergreen song.
Laga Chunari Me Daag from movie "Dil Hi To Hai"
लागा चुनरी में दाग मिटावु कैसे...
चुनरी में दाग छुपावु कैसे?
घर जावु कैसे?
भूल गई सब बचन बिदा के
खो गई मैं ससुराल में आके
This song is about a married girl, who is concern about spot in her dress। She is returning back to visit her parents home and she is worrying about how to inform that dress is spoiled to her father.
मोरी चुनरिया आत्मा मोरी
मेल है मायाजाल
वोह दुनिया मेरे बाबुल का घर
यह रात ससुराल
जाके बाबुल से नजरे मिलावु कैसे ?
घर जावु कैसे?
It has deep spiritual meaning. We all souls are like that girl. We gave so many promises to the almighty before coming to this planet earth. However, here we forgot everything and lost ourselves in this worldly matters. Now, we have to return back as pure, divine, spotless soul.
This song has nice SA RE GA MA classical singing TARANNUM at the end. Manna Dey sang it very skillfully. I fully enjoyed it. It reminded me, that in college days, my friend informed me, that this part is missing even in HMV records/cassettes. Sometimes, we were lucky enough to listen to it, if the full song is played at radio. The audience was keep demanding songs from movie Padosan and Kabuliwala.
19 Next song was from movie "Mera Naam Joker".
E Bhai Jara Dekh Ke Chalo
ऐ भाई जरा देख के चलो
आगे ही नही पीछे भी
दाए ही नही बाये भी
ऊपर ही नही निचे भी
Be careful, while walking and look at front, back, left, right, up and down. This song also has some philosophy. It compare the life with circus show last for three hours. First hour is childhood, second your and third old age. After that nothing. Empty chair, empty tent, nothing is yours, nothing is mine.
20. A patrotic song from "Kabuliwala"
E Mete Pyaare Vatan
ऐ मेरे प्यारे वतन तुज पे दिल कुर्बान
This song has different emotion. A full love, respect and dedication for one's
country. Manna Dey told about this song in an interview: "Bimalda (director Bimal Roy) explained the scene to me. Kabuliwala r eturns home late in the night to his one-room tenement and is nostalgic about his young daughter away in Kabul. I was asked to render it softly, keeping in mind that Kabuliwala wouldn't like to disturb the other occupants of the tenement. Sound recordist Sharma wanted me to sing a bit louder. But Bimalda put his foot down. After the recording, Sharma hugged me and said the song was superb."
Manna Day again asked Archana to accompany him for duet. Last two melodious songs
21. Dil Ki Girah Khol Do Chup Na Betho Koi Git Gao
दिल की गिरह खोल दो
चुप ना बेठो
महेफिल में है अब कौन अजनबी
तुम मेरे पास आवो
22. Aaja Sanam Madhur Chanadani
आजा सनम मधुर चाँदनी में हम
तुम मिले तो वीराने में भी आ जायेगी बहार
And finally like all joyful events, this show also got over. The curtains came down. It was a very pleasant experience to listen to such a Padma Vibhusan singer at his age of 90. Enjoyed. It is a reminder about the times that will never come back — great songs and passionate lyrics
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Arvind started with introduction of his employer. SLOKA started in 2004. Now about 30 people are working with SLOKA. At present SLOKA provides solution for Fixed WiMAX (IEEE 80.16d). They have roadmap for LTE & Mobile WiMAX (IEEE 80.16e) as well.
Arvind started with some background of various wireless system, generations, architecture and protocol stacks. This slide I liked that shows various generations of wireless system evolution with both stream 3GPP and 3GPP2.
After this background, we discussed the main topics and he listed out possible security threats, security goals and security context. Generally standards are written more for mobile handset. For network equipment side, many things left open. AKA stands for Authentication & Key Agreement.
We had interesting discussion on challenges to implement number portability. For
He explained security in GSM, with AKA and LAU procedure. The SIM card have A3, A8 and A5 algorithm. A3 and A8 are used for authentication, during LAU and incoming call. A5 is used for encrypting the data/voice, if it is enable. These algorithms are on SIM card. SIM card do not have CPU. It is implemented with hardware logic. They are proprietary algorithms. Standard recommends COMP128 so in early days everyone implemented that only. In 1998, some document got leaked. The biggest flow about this approach is Ki, which never changes. Audience suggested, can we read Ki if we have memory dump of the SIM card. Yes, we can, but the challenge is to identify the Ki in the memory dump. Unlike Ki, Kc frequently changed. Kc is just 54 bits/bytes so comparatively easy to derive, by reverse and A8. Yes for A3 and A8, ECC is best algorithm, theoretically but difficult to implement in SIM card. Nowadays COMP128-2 and COMP128-3 are used. TMSI allocation and AKA both are independent procedure, but may happen together, generally at the time of LAU.
He listed these three approaches to identify Kc, and crack encryption algoritham.
1. Compare known palin text with encrypted text
2. Differntial analysis of 2 sets of plain texts and encrypted texts
3. Side channels IBM standard with RF monitoring.
Here is the presentation file:
Next discussion about security aspects for 3G UMTS network, and how it is different from GSM. Here we have two way authentication. Even UE also authenticate network. So in stead of authentication triplet now we have authentication quintet. He explained RRC security procedure. We have also START, THRESHOLD and counter check mechanism to prevent man in the middle attack. It uses for session lifetime. At UMTS 3G network, we have CK for encryption (Kc in GSM) and additional key IK for integrity of the data. GSM uses CKSN, while UMTS uses KS1 from SIM card. In UMTS the data flow is suspended and resumed before changing key. There are various inputs to f8 algorithms like Ck, count-C, Bearer direction. Output is keystrem block. FRESH, direction, counter-1, message and IK are input for f9 algorithm to generate MAX-1. Here message is Radio bearer ID, RRC Sequence number and signaling content. USIM and AuC are involved. CK, IK, XRES, MACA-A etc used. UMTS has Radio Bearer, that is similar to service flow in WiMax. Two types of Radio bearers Data and Signaling.
Someone from audience shared and innovative way to fraud with mobile operator, that they used to do during college days. If we make a call, talked it and then do not disconnect, but remove the battery. So bill do not get generated. When we remove the battery, the necessary signaling information do not exchange to terminate the call. So it was bug in billing system. Other person confirmed that yes sometimes operators choose low quality billing solution. We mentioned the mobile operator and its billing solution provider name also, that I prefer not to disclose at my blog. :)
Yes, Arvind added that multiparties are involved to secure the network. And the operator has to take care of possible security threat from contractor. He added that VISA wanted to implement some online transaction solution in SIM card. So your SIM card (so your mobile) act as credit/debit card. However, VISA and mobile operators both parties were not comfortable to share some secret details about security implementation. In the field of security, the publicly published algorithms are more secured. As all have tried to crack it and so made it more robust.
Arvind discussed some interesting scenarios for UMTS about backward compatibility with GSM. Our mobile handset, our SIM card and the network, all the three elements can be either 2G GSM or 3G UMTS. 2G GSM system uses KC, while UMTS sues CK and IK both. 3G UMTS SIM card is USIM, 2G mobile is MS and 3G mobile is UE. conversion is standard algorithm. The attachment is between USIM and AuC. If USIM with 2G MS joined to 2G GSM network. USIM has CK, IK that should be converted to KC and XRES to SRES. This implementation is at USIM, so not standardized. But if USIM with UE joined to GSM network then conversion happened at UE. It is from CK+IK to KC, so need to standardized.
At last, Arivind gave some algorithmic background, like ciphering type, data integrity and encryption some basic popular algorithm. Fro UMTS 3G, the f8 and f9 algorithams are based on KASUMI. KASUMI means mist in Japanese. It is block cipher. MISTY algorithm for block cipher, by Mitsubashi, is in public domain. And as name suggest, KASUMI is based on MISTY. A5, A3, GRE3 algorithams are based on KASUMI. One can always have two choices, to implement these algorithm. Hardware and software. For network side, it does not matter much. However for mobile handset side, this choice has much impact. The software implementation we can always optimize and fine tune as per underlying hardware. Yes, in one of the project, I further optimized Diffie-Hellman key exchange algorithm for 32 bits and 64 bits processor.
We discussed about end-to-end security. Even today, also our landline phones are not secure. Anyone, can tap the line and listen the conversation. Yes, we can find some device to encrypt/decrypt voice with Internet help. Since it is proprietary solution, both party has to use these product. For GSM in
We talked about 3G, since BSNL had recently launched it. generally 3G phones are high end phone. However in the like
Overall it was very good session. Arvind involved the audience in the talk and handled the question-answers very nicely. Even some were less relevant questions. I met some of my ex-colleagues from Lucent (now Alcatel-Lucent). I am thankful to the speaker Arvind, ACM and my friend Jayesh, who informed about this session on chatting.Here, it is my humble effort to share my notes, as what I remember. Many points are not verbatim. Please correct me, add/modify this content, if you have also attended this session. One can also refer Arvind's blog to know more about this session. If you like this article, then you may also like to read about my other such notes on :
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He shared his experience that many people use cellphone, but they are not aware, how it works! Some elctromagnetic waves travels in ether. But ether does not exist! Nothingness exist. Matter and material science is his favorite subject. He spent almost 50 years to do research on this topic and concluded that matter does not exist !!!. The conclusion is not because his failure attempt, but it is truth. Yes, on 18th Jan 2009, we had similar discussion with Guruji. Guruji confirmed “Aisa hi hai” (It is like that only) Here nothing exist. We can touch, we can feel the matter, but actually it does not exist! He suggested to refer Lotus-sutra and Heart-Sutra by Buddhism. Watch this video for details.
Dr. Duerr, being scientist evaluate, judge, measure repetitively before conclude something. We normal people, assume and guess. However, he confessed that after all these efforts, he gained some knowledge and reached to our (audience’s) level. What a humbleness!
The science and scientist are not different. The creator and its creation are inseperable. The observer and object are not different. The object and subject both are one only. The science break that oneness. So an object study a subject! They are same. Life scientist has nothing do with life. If nothing exist then “What is this?” question becomes irrelevant. We need to think in different way. In fact, we experience much more than what we can grasp. He quoted some two fundamental lows about likely and unlikely events, that seems to me similar to Murphy’s law. With few diagrams he explains that faith, wisdom etc belong to one circle. Logic, analysis, science and reasoning is connecting one, the middle circle and the end result is the scientific knowledge and theory, the third circle. Thus, the science only helps us to derive the knowledge from the eternal wisdom.
He showed those famous photographs about illusions ‘an old lady and young girl’ in a same picture. Everyone has its own world. We believe that reality is world. In fact world is not reality it is potentiality. From that potentiality, the energy and matter manifest. We do not look any scene as just with eyes and brain. Our mind puts its own color to it. It is like software. Software is ultimately 0s and 1s only. Still all softwares looks different. So since childhood if we learnt this is photo of an old lady, we tell the same to next generation. Thus, customs are built.
He nicely explain the limitation of science with example of fisherman and its net. He also discussed about the trees, which converts Carbon Dioxide to Oxygen. It cost trillions of dollars, to mankind, while the nature is doing it free of cost for us. So do not believe scintist and economist. As they are limited by what they can observe and measure. (Once Guruji told, what we can measure is MAAYAA = illusion....something like that.) He made the session interactive with thought provoking questions like, what is the color of circle? The color and thickness of circle depends on the pen that one uses. The circle has no color, no thickness. As I understood, he was trying to explain that different religions are like color and thickness but the ultimate truth is like circle.
The recent Tamil movie “Dasavatharam” has dialogue about butterfly effect. If a butterfly flaps its wing then it can bring typhoon at Amazon forest. He explained the logic. The whole system is such an unstable state that somehow if one water molecule got momentum then it impact many other similar molecules in atmosphere and it causes the typhoon.
He continued further that, If a pen standing upside down, then it can fall to any direction even by slightest force. Which direction it will fall? It has highest point of instability. He reminded us the
He explained nicely some science concept with example of pendulum and series of several pendulum. The imbalance to balance is life. There is difference between living and non-living. He also showed some pictures about atom structures. The matter is nothing but energy waves.
The three has magic property to remain imbalance. Guruji had already informed us, that he will tell this statement. And Guruji also added to it, that probably that is the reason that we have 3 DOSHAs (distortions) (VAAT, PITT and KAPH) and 3 GUNAs (Qualities) (Satva, Rajas and Tamas). Dr. Duerr ended, "Our both legs are different, and we canno remain stable on one leg. However when we walk, both legs give us stability dynamically. Same way, in this world everybody are important and we should respect the diversity and get cooperation from different individuals."
Yes, I was not fully comfortable with his German English pronunciations. We noticed that the speaker was so involved in the talk, that sometimes, he faced difficulty to recollect the words, to convey his message. Whatever I could hear, listen to and understand, it was excellent. I lost myself in his speech. After a long time, I attended such a nice speech. I experienced that yes, science and spirituality/religion are really meeting at one place. Whatever (1) a devotee can gain with faith, (2) a Vedanti person can get knowledge of Advaita the same knowledge (3) a scientist gain with his research.
Here, it is my humble effort to share my notes, as what I remember. Many points are not verbatim. Please correct me, add/modify this content, if you have also attended this session. It brought me back to my school days, when I learnt quantum physics from Bhabha sir at Mithapur high School. It also reminds me the movie “What the bleep do we know?”
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